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#1 2015-02-28 18:27:00

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This makes me happy

I think this is the oldest computer possible to run TenFourFox. Anyone want to beat this?

https://plus.google.com/116882205166041 … aiNTDSiMNx


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#2 2015-03-01 14:38:09

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Re: This makes me happy

I didnt think Accelerator boards could run OS X native without ROM patches?

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#3 2015-03-01 16:17:00

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They can, although you might need to run with speculative access or other features disabled. Sonnet even shipped an enabler for them back in the day.


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#4 2015-03-02 01:44:46

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Wow... ya learn something new everyday.

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#5 2015-03-02 17:24:02

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Re: This makes me happy

Imagine how tight of a wad Cory's panties are in now...  Someone should post this at the other site just to troll him.

-J


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#6 2015-03-02 20:29:37

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Nah, I'm not interested in opening that can of worms again.


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#7 2015-03-03 01:22:43

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I know.  But, maybe someone else can, if they want.

-J


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#8 2015-03-03 15:09:33

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Re: This makes me happy

ClassicHasClass wrote:

I think this is the oldest computer possible to run TenFourFox. Anyone want to beat this?

https://plus.google.com/116882205166041 … aiNTDSiMNx


A bit of chatter over here...
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1851422

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#9 2015-03-03 17:28:41

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ClassicHasClass wrote:

I think this is the oldest computer possible to run TenFourFox. Anyone want to beat this?

Pretty sure the 9500 was the first released PCI Mac (edging the 7/8500 by a couple months) in which case, yes, it would literally be impossible to beat it without resorting to emulation of some kind.

(I've always wondered vaguely if it's possible to run Mac-On-Linux on Nubus Macs or the handful of ancient RS/6000s that are supported by Linux, but even if that's theoretically possible don't versions of OS X later than, what, 10.2? absolutely require a G3 CPU? That would narrow the possibilites down to a Nubus Mac with a G3/G4 accellerator card that's supported by Linux, so... if someone happens to have that combination of stuff and wants to spend a few really frustrating weekends trying to virtualize Tiger on a 1994-vintage machine you can consider the gauntlet officially thrown.)


Flap Different.

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#10 2015-03-03 22:32:28

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That's what I thought. I couldn't find any older unit that was PCI.

Per this, XPostFacto will allow a 604 to run 10.2, though they cite "various other issues" (probably the usual suspects like floppy, needs adequate GPU, etc.). 10.4 allegedly absolutely requires a G3, but this requirement must be something about the chip itself -- the instruction set is exactly the same as the 603. I suspect it wants to get at the backside cache control registers. I don't know about 10.3.

The only RS/6000 systems I know earlier than that were actually POWER or RSC (or POWER2/P2SC), not true PowerPC. Essentially you'd be running it in emulation for all the missing instructions, and a 33MHz POWER1 trying to emulate a 333MHz G3 .... eckthph. Might be fun if I have some copious spare time ever though.


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#11 2015-03-03 23:49:54

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