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#1 2018-01-24 10:12:56

pixelheresy
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
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Need help getting StuffIt and DiskCopy onto an old Macintosh Classic

I recently picked up a Macintosh Classic in great shape for cheap on Tradera (a local Swedish auction site). Very happy, since it is my first vintage Mac in 20 years. Unfortunately, the only things on it, besides old documents, are OS 7, MacWrite, Claris, and MacPaint. No utilities. No nothing.

So I tried using dd to take disk images and write them to 1.44 mb floppy on my current MacBook Pro (with a USB drive), but no dice. As such, I am at a loss of how to get StuffIt and DiskCopy over so I can image what disks I need on the MC itself. I don’t have access to anything else with a floppy.

If I am understanding, I can bring over FAT formatted disks with .sit or .bin files and extract and dupe disks on the Mac, as long as I have StuffIt to open them up. But here I am stuck.

Any suggestions? Can anyone lend me disks to just get this thing going? I live in Stockholm, so shipping a floppy or two should not be expensive (and I can reimburse) within Europe. I can’t justify paying massive sums for boxed vintage software on eBay just to get going or a second vintage Mac just to service the first.
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#2 2018-01-25 14:19:37

pixelheresy
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Re: Need help getting StuffIt and DiskCopy onto an old Macintosh Classic

Little bit of an update. I managed to figure out *something* although kind of insane.

Ok. I needed first to make .img files from Disk Copy for the StuffIt installers. They came in a .sit file, but once uncompressed, the two files together exceed 1.44 MB. So I made two images, one for each disk. I did this in SheepShaver (emulator) running OS 9.

Once I did that, I copied the images onto my MacBook Pro's Desktop.

I then fired up VirtualBox running Windows XP and brought the image files into that VM. Then, I captured the USB floppy drive [a very cool and sometimes very useful feature of VirtualBox] and fired up WinImage. That can handle pulling and writing Mac floppy images, but cannot mount and can only read the disk title. Anyway, I wrote the disks there. When I put them in my Macintosh Classic, they worked *perfectly*.

So kind of crazy, but I at very least *have* the capability of creating my own 1.44 MB floppy disks. Once I get Disk Copy over, I can put any 800 KB or 400 KB images onto 1.44 MB disks, save them to the Mac Classic's HDD and clone them on the machine to actual lower-density disks.

Hopefully, even though this is needlessly complicated, this info helps others in the same predicament: Not having a classic Mac with a CD/USB and floppy to create disks for even older Macs.

Last edited by pixelheresy (2018-01-25 14:21:35)

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#3 2018-01-26 03:26:25

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Re: Need help getting StuffIt and DiskCopy onto an old Macintosh Classic

There is more info than you could ever want here:

http://www.applefool.com/se30


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#4 2018-01-26 09:21:29

pixelheresy
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
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Re: Need help getting StuffIt and DiskCopy onto an old Macintosh Classic

mcdermd wrote:

There is more info than you could ever want here:

http://www.applefool.com/se30

Absolutely. Saw that, but unfortunately, I got into the .sit dilemma. I could build a cable that connects the Mac's serial to a USB to serial adapter, but the target cannot speak LocalTalk and the Mac has no terminal application installed. I'd have to get it over to even do that, etc.

In the end, I found a solution that works, if kind of silly.

I did find this as well, for those in the same boat: http://rescuemyclassicmac.com/buyadisk/buyadisk.html

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#5 2018-02-11 23:52:23

techknight
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Re: Need help getting StuffIt and DiskCopy onto an old Macintosh Classic

I hope this machine is recapped. or it will fail in short order.

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