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#1 2017-07-15 02:05:59

benthink
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Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

My dream is to put a 9in color monitor in a compact Mac shell and connect a Raspberry Pi to it, running Mini vMac.

I think a color monitor is out of the question, due to the incompatible size - it would not fit into a Mac SE shell. So instead, this guy cut the original glass monitor face and put in an LCD.

The next best option would be a B&W monitor, and I've seen them described at 68kmla.org (I think they are Point of Sale monitors) but I've never actually seen one listed anywhere for sale.

Do you know if there is a source for these monitors that could drop in to the Mac?

I know I could just put in an LCD, but those flat screens never look right.

This guy did something close to what I would like to do.

This guy does a great job with a flat screen.

This one uses a Pi and the original screen, but it's beyond my ability to develop a driver.

And another who built his own GPU.

Thanks!

PS: I can't get verfied at 68kmla.org for some reason.

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#2 2017-07-15 05:44:12

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Re: Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

I think I saw the same post you did about the point of sale monitors. I've never come across one, but it sounds interesting.

What exactly is it that you want to do? If you do find that B&W point of sale monitor, you'd have a Raspberry Pi, running Mini vMac, inside a Mac case, and driving a look-alike B&W monitor. You might as well just use the real Mac SE at that point, no?

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#3 2017-07-15 18:06:38

benthink
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Re: Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

bigmessowires wrote:

If you do find that B&W point of sale monitor, you'd have a Raspberry Pi, running Mini vMac, inside a Mac case, and driving a look-alike B&W monitor. You might as well just use the real Mac SE at that point, no?

It could be a file server (NAS) as well as a classic Mac all in one box - it would be multi-use. I could also use it as a Linux terminal. It makes it a practical device rather than just a conversation piece. I could also make it a virtual PowerPC with a giant virtual hard drive. It just opens up the possibilities.

I think there may be a market for a limited run vga monitor batch, specifically for this purpose - while they still make CRTs. I expect that CRT production will cease entirely if it hasn't already. It's an amazingly manual production process.

bigmessowires wrote:

the same post you did

Wasn't me - I doubt that I'm the first to ponder it tho.

I suppose if I wait long enough, someone will produce a convex OLED that fits - that would be ideal.

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#4 2017-07-22 18:42:59

MinerAl
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Re: Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

I have a 9" B&W monitor in a Classic II case.  It's just a dumb monitor for the MacMini (2011) next to it.

It was a point of sale monitor, and they were on ebay regularly as recently as 2013, but as the tube era slides more distantly into the past, they will be fewer and farther between.

FWIW you will not ever fit a 9" color CRT into a compact Mac (128, 512, Plus, SE, SE/30, Classic or Classic II) case.  They are too deep (and they didn't make special shallow ones that might fit if you could just find one).  You would have to modify the back of the Mac's bucket to get one in there.

The best bet these days would be to design and 3D print a new front for your compact Mac that's designed for a flat LCD monitor. If you find that model online be sure to share it here!

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#5 2017-07-23 19:21:04

benthink
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Re: Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

MinerAl wrote:

I have a 9" B&W monitor in a Classic II case.  It's just a dumb monitor for the MacMini (2011) next to it.

That's what I'm after. Can you run Mini vMac on the Mac Mini? I'd be interested to see how that looks on one of those monitors.

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#6 2017-07-24 12:23:01

MinerAl
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Re: Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

benthink wrote:

That's what I'm after. Can you run Mini vMac on the Mac Mini? I'd be interested to see how that looks on one of those monitors.

Yep. It looks like a Mac!  Running full screen there isn't a way to tell it's not an actual Classic (it's not a II case, I misremembered).

I might throw it back together and take a pic for you.  I actually have free time today.

Here is a thread, with pics on page 2, with it being the actual monitor for a LC 475.  -edit- somehow I missed that this is linked in your own first post in this thread, duh -/edit- The nice thing is the grayscale possibilities that this gets you in a compact Mac form factor.

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#7 2017-07-24 12:47:37

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Re: Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

No longer Only a helpful link for the next 2 hours, but just in case: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-4707-E01-Mo … 2575069087

another higher $$, but it's a "make an offer" auction: https://www.ebay.com/p/Wincor-Nixdorf-9 … 1881827724

I think this is what my original svga 9" monochrome monitor was (same model as top link): https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-4707-E01-M … xy4dNS9VLr

BTW I searched ebay for "monochrome monitor 9"

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#8 2017-07-24 20:52:52

benthink
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Re: Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

That looks great - I think I will do this someday.

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#9 2017-07-24 23:35:26

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Re: Is there a VGA replacement that fits the compact Mac?

Those were used in POS register displays. Might be another good search term.


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