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#1 2016-08-30 19:15:49

Holton345
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DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

A notoriously rude and condescending "flea market" owner (more like junk man) has a Color Classic for sale for $40. It has some peripherals and software. It is not working at all. It is for sale "as is" and I would not be shocked to discover it had no logic board. (This guy is a real wanker.)

Is it worth $40 to see what I get? I think it is, but then I have never even seen a real Color Classic.

I may take a look at it this afternoon, so a speedy reply would be most beneficial to me. I am guessing I will pick it up, even if I end up getting taken. I am just worried that it is *really* dead, like ruined traces on the board.

Any opinions?

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#2 2016-08-30 20:06:24

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

If it's "really dead", past the point that uniserver or someone else can reasonably repair it $40 is still worth it, IMHO, since it comes with software and peripherals and Color Classics of any sort aren't as prevalent as they used to be.


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#3 2016-08-30 21:52:50

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

CCs are a weird bunch -

1. You need to power it on with the ADB keyboard. You can flick the switch in back all you want but the power on won't happen until it is on AND you press the keyboard power switch.

2. Some CCs down't like to power on until they've been plugged in and the switch flipped on for a few hours (or even overnight). Did anyone ever figure out what's responsible for that? Anyways, if it won't turn on with the keyboard, leave it plugged in and try again later.

3. They're not immune to cap rot. Luckily, the logic board simply slides out the back so it's easy to visually inspect. There's only nine caps there.

$40 is probably not a bad deal if you get the keyboard and mouse. It's an even better deal if it's only #1 or #2 above.


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#4 2016-08-31 07:11:35

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

i think its worth it :-)

the MB will need a re-cap, and the ab will need one soon as well.
HD might be dead too, but you can get one of those scsi2sd's they work ok.


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#5 2016-08-31 07:49:47

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

Given how little most people know about Macs, to be honest I wouldn't be at all surprised if its actually fine, just that he's tried flipping the switch on the back and gone, "Yep, its dead", I'd get it. Can you have a look at the back? If you can see the serial, ADB, SCSI ports then it has a logic board installed. If not, no logic board.

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#6 2016-08-31 19:52:23

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

They're hard enough to find as it is... for $40 I'd grab it up, although if it's missing the logic board that's a bit of a setback. But I'm sure you could resell it as-is to a collector for more than $40...


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#7 2016-09-01 02:51:22

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

If you do get it and you find it's missing the logic board, I have a 520 board that would make it into a slow Colour Classic II, if you want.

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#8 2016-09-03 15:45:47

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

Headed out to pick it up in about an hour, guys. Hope it isn't garbage. ;-)


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#9 2016-09-03 19:15:38

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

Got it! More later tonight...
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#10 2016-09-03 19:50:03

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

All for $40!!!


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#11 2016-09-04 02:05:39

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

All that software, and the Colour StyleWriter, if working alone is definitely worth $40 to me, even if the CC is dead. Very nice haul.

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#12 2016-09-04 03:37:12

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

The board is toast. Dang battery! X-[

Since I will try the Mystic thing with this I am cleaning up the board in a more severe way than I did for my all-thirteen-caps-blown SE/30 board. There is corrosion all over and the negative pin in the battery cage is gone. The + is very "soft". If this can be revived *at all* it will have to have the cage replaced or moved.

A few of the small chips between the ports and the battery (probably ADB, etc. controllers) may have to go, and the mask will have to be gone over carefully — if there are any pads and traces and VIAs left. I think it is dead meat, so I will start looking for a 575/577/578 machine with a good board and get out the Dremel so I can "craft" (heh, yeah, okay) a new board cover with the correct holes for the ports.

A worthwhile project, but not on the front burner. I will cope with it after my SE/30 is up and awesome again.

I will post some pics of the stuff I got later tonight. It is 10:30 and we are about to eat supper. LATER!

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#13 2016-09-04 03:42:08

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

This is the main concern for now...

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The rest of the board is still in very nice shape, so I will be disappointed if I cannot at least fire it up to test it out, but again, I really like the whole Mystic idea, so this board will go bye-bye at some point, even if perfect.

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#14 2016-09-04 18:17:53

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

cc333 wrote:

... I have a 520 board that would make it into a slow Colour Classic II, if you want...

I am interested in this. I can do the more expensive Mystic stuff to this CC in the future. I just want it to run for now. How much? You can message me or post here.


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#15 2016-09-05 09:28:39

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

Nice thing about the LC520 board, is that given that it lacks the Comms Slot that the LC575 has, you can keep the Colour Classic back panel, so it still looks stock from outside.

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#16 2016-09-05 09:41:11

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

LCGuy wrote:

Nice thing about the LC520 board, is that given that it lacks the Comms Slot that the LC575 has, you can keep the Colour Classic back panel, so it still looks stock from outside.

Very true. I am imagining the fun I will have if I get the 575 board I am interested in. Lots of time with the Dremel and an X-ACTO Knife. I can do it, but I don't want to. The 520 is at least an improvement over stock. If it is cheap enough I would like to own it. Hopefully cc333 will get back to me soon about his offer. I just emailed him.

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#17 2016-09-05 21:51:55

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

I bought the 575 logic board! Mystic on the way!


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#18 2016-09-06 08:47:04

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

Here is all the stuff I got along with the dead CC. It was an old Walden Books tote bag and a cardboard box filled with books as well as an Easter basket filled with floppies, CDs and DVDs, a Color StyleWriter which I have not as yet powered up, an old Quadra 840AV Geoport Telecom and a box filled with some nice kit, including an ADB extension with male and female ends, two Apple microphones (I guess), a few main power cords, and (get this) two brand new, never opened ADB keyboard cables and an unopened ADB Mouse II (teardrop)! It came with its own Apple Keyboard II, cable and teardrop mouse, but the keyboard was badly damaged and the cable and mouse look "old".

The CC ended up having a motherboard with what looked to be bad battery damage. All nine caps had leaked. The damage to the battery contacts was severe, with the + contact simply disintegrating off the board and the - one looking super bad, as well.

I am buying the 575 board from MacCaps. (Thanks, Charles!) This will start me on the adventure of creating one of those Mystic CC machines. Should be a lot of fun... ;-)

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Seriously, a mic for the Quadra 840 AV or a shower head for a house cat? I have never seen one of these. Now I seem to own two of them, one still sealed in its wrapper. It is an Apple PlainTalk Microphone (590-0670). Anyone know whether these are any good?

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I am *very* pleased to get two brand new keyboard cables and this nice ADB Mouse II, all still sealed in their plastic bags!

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Still has the original Apple Computer sticker set, and they have not yellowed at all. Also note two of the older CD caddies for the AppleCD 300...

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Two of the newer (well, newer is pretty relative, here) CD caddies. No AppleCD 300i, though. It went with the Quadra and another buyer who failed to buy all this other stuff. Oh well, more for me. ;-) I have an old AppleCD 300e caddy drive anyway, so four more caddies!

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I now have nine of these excellent books, with four of them being pristine editions for system 5 and 6, then several of these, the mouse illustration being the only outward indication of the edition/age...

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#19 2016-09-06 08:51:47

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

More stuff —

Color StyleWriter Pro...

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Original System 7.0.1 Install Disks for Quadra 840 AV in Original Packaging...

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#20 2016-09-06 08:54:28

Holton345
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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

Even more stuff...

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Oh! I had almost forgotten about these... HAHAHA!!!

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Before...

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Soaking...

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After...

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It is still quite dead. I had it plugged up with the back switch on for over 24 hours. Nada. Zip. So I got the 575 board coming, but I still think this one may be salvageable. I might spend to have it recapped and repaired as needed, just to have it. Maybe to sell. I do not know. I have stumbled back into the old Mac life pretty hard, so I need to keep all this in perspective. Heh...

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#21 2016-09-07 13:22:22

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Re: DOA Color Classic - Worth It?

All that for $40 was definitely a solid haul, and solid hauls don't happen nearly as much as they used to.  Congrats!


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