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#1 2016-06-13 16:11:20

mdent23
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From: Chicago
Registered: 2016-06-05
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SE/30 CF card storage : A Guide

Hello All,

I posted this on 68kmla and thought it might be useful here for anyone who is encountering issues with CF card storage and the SE/30.
I will detail the solution that worked for me below for anyone interested. (LINKS marked throughout and included at the end for reference)

TL;DR  Ensure that you have an active terminator installed on the external SCSI port before attempting to format a CF card with Lido 7. Ensure your jumper settings on the SCSI > CF adapter are set to ID=0 and on-board Active Termination=ON for internal use (on artmix's RaizinMonster this means all jumper pins removed).

Originally on 68kmla.org:
SUCCESS!!! I can finally breathe easy after a couple months of fingernail-biting Mac-life-support-limbo...
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On Saturday I received two packages I was expecting:

1) An DB-25 male (external SCSI) active terminator from SF cable (thank you to Paralel for bringing my attention to external termination; this unit was $8.77 including shipping; I also went with active termination over passive because of the old wiring in my building, just to be safe) (LINK 1)

2) The Mac ROM-inator II (LINK 2) that allows the SE/30 to boot into System 7 from a custom ROM chip (also handles 32-bit addressing, so you don't end up having to install MODE32 to max the RAM out at 128 MB; I currently have 32 MB installed but plan to max it out at some point)

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For good measure, I re-formatted the CF card using a USB reader connected to my TiBook (Sabrent makes a decent one which you can pick up on Amazon for cheap (LINK 3), and Disk Utility on Mac OS X Tiger which allows you to read/write Mac OS Standard floppies (LINK 4) with a USB floppy drive (LINK 5) and partition storage devices using the Mac OS Standard partition scheme.

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After installing the active terminator and seating the custom ROM SIMM into the tray on the logic board, I booted the SE/30, choosing the RAM disk option. To repeat, with artmix's RaizinMonster (SCSI > CF adapter) (LINK 6), I had removed all of the jumper pins, which sets the SCSI ID to 0 and ensures on-board active termination is ON for internal use.

After being greeted with a System 7 desktop (running off the ROM chip), I inserted the floppy that BadGoldEagle provided the image for, running Lido 7 off the floppy.

NO MORE ARBITRATION / TERMINATION ERROR!! After scanning the SCSI bus, Lido found my RaizinMonster SCSI > CF adapter just fine. I was able to format the card; I chose to split into three partitions:

1) 1 GB "Macintosh HD" - The primary partition I will use with System 7
2) 700 MB "System 6" - I will load System 6 onto this partition and switch between the two using System Picker when desired.
3) 2 GB "FreeSpace" - I will use this final partition for long-term storage of applications/files; to minimize risk of wearing out the boot partitions (CF cards have a limited number of write cycles)

The remainder was left as unformatted free space.

Lido formatted and partitioned just fine, finally mounting all three partitions as separate hard disks on the desktop!

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I rebooted from my System 6.0.8 install floppy, and installed the system software with no problem onto the Macintosh HD partition.

Eventually I will run through the upgrade cycle (creating several install floppies) to get it all the way to System 7.5.5 which is where I will draw the line. There is a great little site called fenestrated.net that walks you through installing Classic Mac system software and includes links to patches and enhancements to get your 68k Mac running at its best! (LINK 7)

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As I detailed in a previous post, this has turned into the best-case scenario. I now have two boot partitions on the CF card, plenty of free space for storage, a custom ROM I can boot off of in emergencies with the added bonus of built-in 32-bit addressing, which as said before eliminates the need of installing the MODE32 utility for maximum RAM utilization.

The SE/30 now proudly sits on my bedroom desk, where my girlfriend and I can write stories, screenplays and the like distraction-free, with an ImageWriter II for that satisfying retro dot matrix print feel.

Next goals include getting Ethernet running on this machine! Thank you all for your assistance, this was a definite team effort and I couldn't have arrived at this solution without your input.

// mdent23


LINKS:
LINK 1: http://bit.ly/1PXu0d4 >> DB25 male (external SCSI) active terminator
LINK 2: http://bit.ly/1U48ek4 >> Mac ROM-inator II (custom bootable ROM chip with built in 32-bit addressing)
LINK 3: http://amzn.to/1VUYUnw >> Sabrent CF card reader on Amazon
LINK 4: http://amzn.to/1OlpmFe >> Maxell Mac formatted floppy disks (10-pack on Amazon)
LINK 5: http://amzn.to/1Ynothn >> Sabrent external USB floppy drive
LINK 6: http://ebay.to/28xkzXI >> RaizinMonster (50-pin SCSI to CF card adapter, artmix in Japan)
LINK 7: http://bit.ly/1ZL8A2V >> fenestrated.net (a great site detailing Classic system software installation processes)

Last edited by mdent23 (2016-06-13 16:21:10)


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#2 2016-08-27 05:17:57

Holton345
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From: Yazoo City, Mississippi
Registered: 2016-08-27
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Re: SE/30 CF card storage : A Guide

Congratulations! I am doing all this too, at the moment. I just cleaned my board of cap goo and some minor corrosion. I had the SimasiMac symptoms and the faster "Chimes of Death" (along with almost inaudible volume). I am letting the board dry overnight and  then will hit it with my new air compressor because I am worried it will never really dry out (the Programmer and Reset switches, for example) and will fry on me when I hook it up.

If this board will boot it will get recapped for sure. If not, if the SimasiMac screen is still there, I will have to send it off to see what the tech thinks.

If I have to get another board I will.

Once it is up and running again I intend to use the card and ROM you have. I bookmarked the ROM-inator home page just last night, and the CF card two days ago. Both are great discoveries!

I also have a Novell Etherport SE/30 card with the daughter card/external port installed but have never used it. I am hoping (fingers crossed) that I can hook it to my Apple Time Capsule to connect it to my cable modem. I know how slow these are on the WWW as I used to use this computer with a 56K Global Village dialup modem, a text browser, a news reader and Eudora for email. It worked great, it was just slooooooow. I hope I can at least do this much via my cable modem/Time Capsule. At this late date I think it all is just experimentation.

I cannot wait to get 128 MB of RAM installed via a 32 bit "clean" ROM and install 7.5.3 Rev. 2, which is my favorite version of System 7. I love to write on this thing, and the experience is just *not* the same on my 27" iMac or my MacBook Air. The SE/30 just has this *feel* to it when you are typing. I love it.

Hope your baby runs well for a long time.

Thanks!

EDIT: I was actually looking at this card from Artmix. I do not really need the added expense (like double!) for the ability to hot swap the CF cards since they are locked up inside the case and I do not want to hack the case to make a slot. I want the single slot in the rear to be for the Etherport card. So the cheaper, less exciting card will do me. It is only about a hundred bucks. I don't know how much shipping is, but it looked to me like it is free if I am willing to wait forever for it to arrive, heh, heh. I am, so I will. ;-)

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#3 2016-08-28 16:13:09

mdent23
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From: Chicago
Registered: 2016-06-05
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Re: SE/30 CF card storage : A Guide

Awesome, Holton! Good luck with your project; and yes, the AztecMonster will work just fine. I inadvertently bought the RaizinMonster, which I believe was actually crafted for synthesizers/music equipment (hence the hot-swap capability for instrument banks and the like).

Once you have Artmix's card, it will fit nicely in the now freed up hard disk bay; at least with my converter he included mounting pegs and screws too. You will definitely have room for the PDS Ethernet card.

As for Ethernet functionality, I'm a little fuzzier on the topic. As long as there is a signal coming from your AirPort, you should have no problem; the only challenge may be in proper configuration settings. I'm sure there's a guide (or a few) floating around though to help you on your journey.

Best of luck, keep us posted!

// mdent23


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#4 2016-08-28 17:01:58

macdrone
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From: Rainier, Or
Registered: 2014-05-25
Posts: 231

Re: SE/30 CF card storage : A Guide

A 10 base T router usually is a good bridge into newer routers to stop any problems or conflicts.  I use one with my color classic and any others I want to hook to my newer airport network.  Nothing but problems with out the ability to do 10 base T.  Its actually a 10/100 base T router that I got at goodwill a number of years ago.

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