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#1 2015-04-27 17:09:31

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Falcon's Nest o'Macs

So, I had the post all made up, but evidently I took too long as I got logged out before I clicked post and lost it all.

Anyway, because of that you just get a list, more or less in order of acquisition. neutral

iBook G3 Indigo, 366MHz
PowerBook G4 17" 1.0GHz, since died and sent away for parts.
MessagePad 130 - in storage.
Power Mac G5 DP 1.8GHz, since sold.
PowerBook G4 12" 867MHz, replaced the 17" once it died. Nice condition, good Apple battery, fully loaded.
eMate 300, use daily, original battery still holds a charge.
Power Mac G4 Cube 400MHz CD-RW model
Mac Pro, originally 2.66GHz but since upgraded to 3.0, has a 1TB hard drive, 10GB RAM, and GTX 550 Ti GPU - Daily Driver
MacBook Air, 1.6GHz original model
MacBook Pro, 2.0GHz CD 256MB VRAM - Using to write this, daily driver.
PowerBook 180
Quadra 700 "Spike" PVT
SE/30
MessagePad 2100
PowerBook 520c, just traded away last week.
G4 Quicksilver 733MHz
TiBook 500MHz, running OS 9.2 now. Nice machine, really like it.
Mac Mini, originally a Core Duo but now upgraded to 2.0GHz C2D, flashed to 2,1 firmware, running Lion, 3GB RAM. Media center/HTPC.
iMac 400MHz DV Indigo
MacBook 2.1GHz, Early 2008 - Daily Driver, 30GB mSATA SSD and 3GB RAM, running Lion.
Mac Plus, really an upgraded 512k. Has a Lapis FPD card inside, but I don't have the software and there's no cable for it.
Power Mac 8100, this should be here Wednesday, was the trade machine for the 520c.

I may go back and add pics some time, or if there's a machine someone really wants to see. iDevices, I have a small handful of iPods, currently use an iPad Air and iPhone 6.

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#2 2015-04-27 20:38:49

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

I had the same issue man... damn was i cranky. lol


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

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#3 2015-04-28 00:23:26

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Sorry about this, it seems like we have an issue with remaining logged in for new users. I'll look into it.


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#4 2015-04-28 05:13:08

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

An 8100 for a 520c? That's a tough call, but I'd probably keep the 520c (also my undying hate for that case).

That "Mac 512->Plus" machine sounds interesting.

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#5 2015-04-28 12:33:41

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

ClassicHasClass wrote:

That "Mac 512->Plus" machine sounds interesting.

Kastegir!

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#6 2015-04-28 14:20:06

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

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There's the Plus (I love that it's an upgraded one with the original front)

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And the FPD card, which barely fits inside. Attached with a Killy Klip to the CPU.

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And there's Spike and the Cube when I had everything out for testing day.

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And the 180, with its most appropriate startup screen.

As far as the 520c - 8100 argument goes, I really hadn't felt a lot of attachment to the 520, and I felt like I might enjoy another Power Mac. I know it's not a spectacular one by any means, but it does at least have a CD drive.

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#7 2015-04-29 19:41:12

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

I've been Spindlered.

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That represents every last connecting piece on the left side of the front panel. roll

The hard drive bracket (that attaches to the drive) also snapped in half, so the drive floats now.

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My NEC MultiSync adapter proves up to the challenge again!

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CD bezel also had the left side retainer break.

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Runs 1024x768 just fine. I'll finally get to play a Warcraft game too. smile 128MB RAM, 2GB Seagate hard drive.

Quick question: Is it normal to have signatures embedded in the interior plastic frame, like the older compacts?

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#8 2015-04-29 20:02:32

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Ouch... I'm actually surprised I havent broken anything on my 9 yet... that said the case side sits a bit cocky at the rear so it probably already has gone the old spindleroo. lol

As for the signatures, that is something I am unsure of... never seen them on anything mainstream after the 128/512/Plus.


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G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

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#9 2015-04-29 20:18:41

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#10 2015-04-29 20:21:24

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

I know the IIci had sigs, but I've never heard of the 8100 having them.

It's a nice looking case, but bad design indeed.

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#11 2015-04-29 20:24:19

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

TheWhiteFalcon wrote:

I know the IIci had sigs,.

Ah yeh sorry, I'd forgotten all about that one... mine hasnt seen the light of day in close to 10 years. lol


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

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#12 2015-04-29 21:45:44

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

I've owned two 8100's. My 8100/80 had them, but my 8100/110 didn't.

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#13 2015-04-30 00:52:55

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Tried to reply earlier but my phone kept dropping it. This is an 8100/110, so maybe it's just an early one.

I'm going to pull it apart to make sure the PRAM battery is out and clean it, I'll get some pics.

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#14 2015-04-30 02:36:06

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

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Sigs.

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Oh yeah...

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I'm thinking some of this is bad. System Profiler only showed four DIMMs, unless they're pairs in that.

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Board designers?

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Looks like heat from the PSU has slowly distorted the VRAM SIMMs.

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The final tally.

Overall, I like the potential of the machine. I like it somewhat from an aesthetic standpoint. But this case design is just as awful as everyone claims. Truly a Road Apple. roll

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#15 2015-04-30 12:22:15

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Those spindler bits and bobs... Acetone would work pretty well... McDerm really likes the DCM stuff so I imagine that would work maybe even better.

GorillaGlue for anything structural... it was also the only thing that worked on the bezel frame of my broken machine.

Anyway, yeah, you probably know all that already.

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#16 2015-04-30 15:29:12

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

I've never had any luck repairing that stuff. If it's on a part that gets any sort of stress, it cracks again. Either in the same spot or close by. I fully expect that all Spindler-era Macs will some day simply crumble under their own weight.


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#17 2015-04-30 15:37:35

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Spindler splinters!

My clockchipped Q800 is named "spindler" in dishonour.

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#18 2015-04-30 16:08:58

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

mcdermd wrote:

I've never had any luck repairing that stuff.

I guess I must have misunderstood some post somewhere.  The cosmetic stuff it seems you can stick back together if you are willing to go that route and baby the machine. But yeah, you're right, it's all just headed to a dustpile eventually.

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#19 2015-05-01 16:15:58

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Oh, you can stick it back together. And if there are no stresses on it, it will probably be okay. But if its in any sort of stressed area, it's going to see the same fate that the leg lamp in A Christmas Story had.


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#20 2015-05-01 23:48:02

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Incidentally, the ANS has signatures on the inside panel.

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#21 2015-05-03 00:27:38

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Pics will come later, but I redid the thermal paste on the MB and MBP. It's no wonder the poor MBP got so hot...

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#22 2015-05-03 15:29:36

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

I've long wondered if heating up the clicky parts with a hair dryer might relieve brittleness just enough to deter SpindlyPlast from fragmenting. It's like pulling the buttons on a pineapple.*** Think of the lung damage inflicted upon all those poor graphic Designers from plasticiser inhalation in the Nineties. Spindlyosis! neutral

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***Apply Rainbow Crayon tongue

**** reversal of image, deformation to Macintosh profile and stop action illustration of handle at a jaunty angle in green optional.

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#23 2015-05-04 01:30:22

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

Too late for me to try, there aren't many sections left to break! big_smile

I don't think I'd mentioned it here, but a while back I bought a "pound of RAM" from LEMSwap, and it had a lot of goodies (like 128MB 168-pin DIMMS), but also a bunch of PC100/133. I put three 256 MB sticks in my G4Cube (which had been operating with 384 from the day I got it). Then I tried to load up the Quicksilver, which didn't come with any RAM when I bought it, and discovered the ungrateful thing turns its nose up at PC-100. And I only had one more PC-133 stick left, a 64MB stick, which Tiger laughed at and refused to boot.

Then I discovered that my G3 iMac had a 256MB 133 stick in it. Well, it didn't need that for OS9, so I pulled it out (replaced it with a 128MB stick, so it's got 192 now) and stuck it in the G4.

It's amazing how much of a speed boost the G4e (in the desktop at least) represents over the old G4. It has the exact same GPU as my Cube (apart from no ADC port), but even with less ram there's a significant performance jump over the 450MHz Cube and 500MHz TiBook.

(here comes some tl;dr)

So, the second Mac I bought (and first OS X machine) was a 1.0GHz 17" AlBook. I loved that thing, but the OS install was a mess. It'd never been wiped, though at some point the drive had been replaced (sadly they just cloned it over) so it was just a crufty mess with a decade of data on it, and at that point I had no OS X discs to reformat it. When that machine died I yanked the hard drive and sent it away.

Later, I got the 867MHz 12", which I put Tiger on. But I later swapped the Leopard drive in it, and you could tell it still had issues. I don't use it a ton so I wasn't worrying about it (if Leopard was cheaper I'd have wiped it by now), but since the QS was working now I decided to boot it in TDM and check the disk.

Sure enough, Disk Utility said the header was damaged.

It definitely seems a little snappier now. I'm doing a permission repair again, and hopefully it goes from being painfully slow to just slow.

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#24 2015-05-11 18:31:17

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

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My latest acquisition is a bit camera shy.

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Plastic is fairly pliable, not like the 8100 yet.

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This has been for sale locally for months. Finally decided I couldn't let it go away. Only $50.

Good news is the analog board and tube seem to work, they energize and degauss when the switch is flipped. Bad news is the caps leaked, and the CUDA chip had a lot of gunk on the leads. I'm going to give the board the scrub treatment and we'll see what happens.

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#25 2015-05-11 18:35:48

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Re: Falcon's Nest o'Macs

I just need a moment...


Stay hungry... Stay foolish.
G5 2.0DC, Yikes G4/500 Sonnet-Enhanced, B+W G3/450, 9600/200MP, 7600/200, iMacs DVSE Graphite and 600 Snow, 7220/200, WGS 7350/180, 6360/160, 5500/250 DE, Pismo, 2x Lombards, 6100/66DOS, 2x CC's, 3x Pluses, 512K, SE/30, SE Superdrive, 2x Classics, IIvx, IIci, IIsi, 3x LC520, 4x LC575, 5x P580, LC, LCIII, //gs LE, 2x ROM 02 //gs', IIe... and I'm outta characters!

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