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#26 2015-04-29 12:45:28

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Hueheueheuehue I remember when I was younger Ace of Base had quite a few songs in the charts over here... This is going back around 1995ish though... they were I'm pretty sure largely forgotten about by the early 2000's lol. I think you had to grow up in a certain time to like them. Too old and you thought they were gay, too young and you simply werent ever exposed to them. big_smile


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#27 2015-04-29 12:54:22

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

I'm in my late 30's, so let's just say I was overexposed... I was in High School from 92-96 and The Sign was everywhere. I guess they are pretty popular overseas though, so I really shouldn't knock them too much, less the fans come out and hunt me down. smile

btw, how are the plastics on the IIvx?? They look like they might be Spindler-ish, because the case looks so much like a 7100, but maybe they are a higher quality because Apple wasn't cheap-ing out so much during the II days?

Edit. i've edited this post like 14 times lol. Need more coffee apparently.

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#28 2015-04-29 13:29:51

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

I must admit I am a tragic fan of most of the various Eurodance-type bands of the 90's lol... Not something it's considered acceptable to admit to I know. hahaha big_smile Except Urban Cookie Collective... That is one group I simply cannot stand. Them and 2-Unlimited. Theyre just damn annoying! lol

But yes, the plastics on the vx appear not to be too bad all considered... a little yellowed which I believe was due to the owner prior to the fellow I got it off being a smoker. the back panel sits a little odd on the left side, with i suspect a broken clip somewhere, but otherwise it actually seems to be a fairly sturdy machine. That said I guess the metal chassis and largely metal top cover does help things a lot... the only plastic on the IIvx is really the front facia and bezels and the rear panel. Unfortunately I can't say the same for the IIsi... those things have horrible, brittle, poor-fitting plastics from my experience with them. Also terrible power supplies but thats a different story. lol


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#29 2015-04-29 15:29:40

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

It's pronounced "Two sigh" for a reason.

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#30 2015-04-29 16:24:04

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Indeed! I've always considered them a bit of a pointless system... not really a true Mac II, moreso an overweight LC-series  pretending to be a Mac II. Kinda like the dumpy virginal-looking intern intern in the badly fitting business suit that keeps tripping over his shoelaces ant the office of a legal firm, who spends his lunchbreak crying into his cheese sandwich but goes around gloating to women that he is almost a lawyer. lol

They really arent particularly fast, expandable, versatile and really tbh they don't even much look the part of a high-end system that is what I consider the Mac II nameplate to represent. The II, IIfx, IIvx, IIci, all did a pretty decent job of standing out and walking the walk (of a machine that wasnt just kept in the living room under a sheet as a glorified word processor) in their respective eras... the IIsi, not so much. It's only real claim to glory was that it had a microphone jack... which incidentally the Classic II and LCII also did, so go figure. Add to that that they are poorly made (which isnt specific to them I know), it's hard in hindsight to see how people justified paying for one. They have an intrinsic interest to me as a Mac II by name, but that's about it. lol

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#31 2015-04-30 02:37:06

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

So today has turned out to be a pretty good day so far and it's only lunchtime! big_smile I went to the tip finally to dump the iMac and eMac carcasses and at the bottom of one of the e-waste bins, I happened to find none other than an Apple Colour display (the pizzabox footprint ones that can me used footless), an ADK and ADB Mouse II and a 6300. It just so happens that I am in shortish supply of monitors at the moment, so I set about asking questions only to find that a guy I am casually aquainted with was working and was more than happy to rescue it, which is something I havent been use to having happen for some years when it comes to e-waste or metal items at dumps... So $5 later I have the monitor and the keyboard/mouse. smile

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I probably could have had the actual machine as well but in all honesty I was only interested in the bits i got... I really don't care for 6xxx-series machines a whole lot and i already have a number of them, and as you can see the units are rather yellowed, so the box itself is hardly a mint catch and it's unlikely anybody else would even want it. That being said I am still contemplating going back for it if I can just for parts and maybe also leaving my number with the bloke to give me a text if any Mac stuff rolls through. smile

I love it when I get junk Macs in exchange for good ones! big_smile


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#32 2015-04-30 04:06:21

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

So, having also bought a new set of long-ass torx bits and a longish- T-handle , I decided to test their suitability by taking apart my rather nice but filthy Classic and removing the battery, inspecting the caps and giving it a thorough dust out, after which I put it back together and gave it a much-needed spongebath to remove all the dust and such from years in storage... meaning it is now photogenic enough for a #SELFIE... wot?

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the next job for this afternoon is to clean up my first Classic which ive owned about 15 years now,  and suss out what has gone byebyes on the analogue board and anywhere else, making it notwork for around 7 years. If it is salvagable, possible recap candidate, if not, it can go back into a dark safe place until i find replacement boards. smile

UPDATE: The other Classic is now apart and glaringly obvious are what look to be the two filter caps busted open, which would have explained partly the screen interference years back... so analogue board definitely needs to be coming out for some work before it is put back into service. As for the logic board, it appears to have a fair degree of corrosion around and abouts... It appears C8 has leaked goo and pretty badly eaten the legs of a tiny IC next to it. There is also a fair amount of corrosion around the VIA and sound chips which I cannot 100% for certain deduce the origin of... possibly C1 or C2 , but also possibly moisture from an external source? RC2 and UB7 also have surface corrosion on the legs, however the immediate area around C3 and C4 do not show signs of bad localised corrosion as if electrolyte had sat there.

This board may be salvagable if I can find somebody able to solder the IC's assuming they arent rotted out, but it is definitely going to be needing work prior to functioning again. In the meantime I shall check my stash and see if I have any other servicable boards.

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#33 2015-04-30 15:42:42

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

I have fondness for the IIsi because it was the first Mac I personally owned (a school surplus castoff), but it got quickly abandoned when I got a 7200. I have one in my collection but I'm sad to say it sees little use.

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#34 2015-04-30 18:46:49

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

ClassicHasClass wrote:

I have fondness for the IIsi because it was the first Mac I personally owned (a school surplus castoff), but it got quickly abandoned when I got a 7200. I have one in my collection but I'm sad to say it sees little use.

My current total is 3 of them however of those, one has a dead PSU (it exploded in my face out of the blue when I plugged it in one day about 12 years ago), and one has a dying PSU best i can tell (the one I just bagged recently) as it makes some odd noises from that area and death chimes right after he bong. The other one *did* work some time ago, however no doubt it will also  blow up when I finally drag it back out... I can just feel that WHOOMP of exploding transformer singeing my soulpatch off as we speak.


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#35 2015-04-30 20:15:32

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Welp, can't sleep tonight as you can probably tell, and do not have to work until the evening, so I decided to stop procrastinating and remove the 2.0DP from my office as it was taking up legroom under the desk.... and now it looks like this.

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I've been of two minds as to what I would do with this machine for a while after it became unreliable and was replaced with a late-2005 2.0DC. I had intended to put put the top fan back in and stuff it in a corner for another day, but whilst I had the case cracked open I decided instead I am simply going to strip it of all the removables such that if I need to scavenge a part in a hurry I have them on hand... as it stands I may need to use the DVD-RW in my DC as it sounds pretty sick and is starting to burn errors at speeds above 20x, and I may also extend the fan wiring by a couple of inches and replace the noisy front PCI fan in the DC with the whisper quiet one out of this.

As for the rest of the machine, it's fate is as yet undecided... Part of me says there is no reason to not attempt a reflow, because realistically its a free fix if it works. But that being said, the effort to remove the board and CPU's, and reassemble again, all hopefully without breaking anything, is a pretty substantial. And the reality is simply that these dual-CPU PCI-X G5's are a bag of crap... they had once of the highest failure rates Apple have ever seen before they had been around for even a year, and almost every single major component was at risk of premature failure, not just one. Logic boards, CPU's, PSU... you name it, chances are it is gonna break. Even if I do get it to play nice again, chances are it's to be considered borrowed time... pre-PCIe dual-processor G5's plain and simple just SUCK!

In any case, it will still be easier to pull the board out regardless with everything gone from around it. smile Lighter too with the fans and drives gone big_smile


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#36 2015-05-02 07:00:30

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Aaaaaaaand my vx just died without warning. sad Just plugged it in and it draws current but nothing happens when I hit the power button on the keyboard or the back of the machine. Crap.


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#37 2015-05-02 13:27:20

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Uh...you've just been IIvx'd!?

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#38 2015-05-02 22:39:40

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Indeed I have... Ah well at least I got the 9600 going before the vx died so I can live... have to take it apart today and look for signs of cap leakage. or anything else under the PSU where I cant see.

So in other news, I pulled the board back out of the SE/30 to have a closer look for damage and ascertain it's general conndition prior to a recap. I beleive the degradation it suffered can be put down to a leaking C6 cap rotting a couple of feet on the ASC at UE10. Aside from that however, the board appears in remarkably good condition given the appalling state of the machine in other respects... ie the fact it looks like it was dropped from a Hercules. Assuming the chip at UE10 isnt rotted out underneath then hopefully this board should be an easy enough fix at the hands of somebody competent who can re-establish the connections from the chip.

Also, just because I unburied it, I figured I would grab a shot or two of the fabled G3.5...

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Don't be fooled by the haggard appearance... It looks like garbage as it was rescued after becoming basically that. This machine has a history, hence why when it came to be that when  I had an opportunity to own it, I took it.

It started life at my high school in 1999 as a 350Mhz Rev.1 used as a student fileserver, being one of two blue G3's my school had for that purpose, the other being a 450. In that capacity it served for some years until being replaced by a PC in around 2003. Not long after that, it was decided that we needed a far better computer for editing video etc on than the iMac DV we had been using (I had my finger in all aspects of the tech side back then as a student). Upon exploring our options, and seeing what sort of budget the school had to play with, we decided that our best bang for buck would be a full upgrade of the G3 we now had at our disposal just sitting around.

So after getting the go ahead from the teacher in charge of that side of things, another student we set about creating a monster... We ordered off the bat, 1Gb of RAM, a Sonnet Encore G4 500Mhz ZIF upgrade, a Radeon7000 32Mb Mac Edition, a Pioneer dual-format DVD burner, a 120Gb 7200rpm HDD, a PCI firewire and USB 2.0 card, and a bunch of great software including a brand sankers retail copy of Panther. smile When the items arrived, we set to work  turning the doorstop into a ripper machine again. Unfortunately it was at that point that we discovered the corruption issues suffered by Rev.1 B+W towers when most large aftermarket drives are fitted to the stock IDE bus. We temporarily hooked the drive up to the ZIP connector which worked ok and it ended up staying that way until the drive failed due to heat... lesson learned. Replacement drive and a PCI ATA card fixed that issue, but there were also stability issues all the time... it simply would not stay cool doing long hard rendering tasks, which I put down to the higher clock CPU , the pair of hard drives and extra heat generated by the R7000. We ended up just having the case cracked and blowing a pedestal fan through it during high load operations and that ungracefully solved our stability issues most of the time. After that however, it began to eat RAM... possibly a bad batch but in any case it was another pain in the ass. At that point, some more money had been made available to our cause, and a 1GHz eMac fitted into the budget by a whisker, so we cut out losses, and the G3.5 as it had become known, basically became a glorified toy that played our various Mac games wicked fast but otherwise a shining statement of complete and utter failure. It remained there gathering dust, mocking us until I finished high school.... but nonetheless I liked it. It was a cool machine in principal, and realistically mine ran in the same configuration for years. I just figured the Rev.1 logic board was flakier than I gave credit for. That said, i found out from a fellow student and friend  who came to work as an IT guy at the school that apparently some monkey had unbeknownst to us had the heatsink off and smudged the goop off and that was what caused the overheating all along. By that time the machine was showing its age however.

Well, fast forward some years from my last experience with the machine and my younger brother in his second attempt at 11th and 12 grade happened upon it again in a pile headed to the dumpster and rescued it in a poor state as you see it here. He tried fruitlessly to get it running but it wouldnt boot, and eventually he stripped it all apart intending to build a PC into the case... fortunately this never happened due to the inability to find a suitable motherboard, and instead the machine sat until a couple of years ago when I took the haggard thing off his hands completely dismantled, knowing it had the Sonnet that I could use in my Yikes.

After some time, I was convinced I could get it booted with the usual G3 witchcraft, so set about piecing it back together, using Whatever PC screws I had in my box-o-screws to get it all back intact... hence the funny looking screws holding down the logic board... and a various assortment of other parts I had around to fill the gaps. eMac DVD burner, stock 350Mhz CPU out of my Yikes, whatever RAM i had floating round my bench, the old 10Gb HDD from my Yikes and whatever else I needed I found about the place. After a lot of percerverance as I expected (because it's a B+W), I got it to boot up and work perfectly, even overclocked the stock Yikes chip to 400Mhz. big_smile

Unfortunately I have slightly less PCI video cards than I have PCI Mac towers so it is a gnome at present, but I endeavour to find another R7000 for my other G3 and then this one can have it's graphics card back, and will probably be a candidate for a crystal side mod with paintstripped G4 side plastics and handles . smile


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#39 2015-05-02 23:36:55

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

I you weren't in Oz, I'd send you a 32 MB R7k. Shipping from old USA might be awful.


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#40 2015-05-02 23:52:17

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

mcdermd wrote:

I you weren't in Oz, I'd send you a 32 MB R7k. Shipping from old USA might be awful.

I dare say I would be interested in exploring this further mcd as it might actually be surprisingly cheap and painless given it's only a fairly small item to package and fairly UPS/Auspost-proof one would thing. The idea of posting logic boards over the drink makes me squeamish, otherwise uni would have a stack of my board on his desk for recapping lol... but yes, a PCI card may still be viable, if you are fine with looking into it at your leisure. smile


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#41 2015-05-03 00:13:33

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

I shipped a logic board to iMic recently. It was around $20, via USPS.

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#42 2015-05-03 00:17:24

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

So long as its properly packaged, logic boards have no trouble making it safely across the Pacific - I've bought a few from eBay US and all bar one (which kicked the bucket a few months down the track) have been fine.

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#43 2015-05-03 01:51:44

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Schmoburger wrote:

I dare say I would be interested in exploring this further mcd as it might actually be surprisingly cheap and painless

About USD 15. Want it?


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#44 2015-05-03 02:39:43

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Those r7k's are awesome.  JFYI, if you can do a bit of soldering, you can get the PC version of the 64MB one fully Macified.  The main reason for the 64MB one is 1920x1200.  That's a great resolution for system 7.  smile

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#45 2015-05-03 03:35:57

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

mcdermd wrote:
Schmoburger wrote:

I dare say I would be interested in exploring this further mcd as it might actually be surprisingly cheap and painless

About USD 15. Want it?


Sounds perfect to me mate! smile

And yep they are a fantastic card... they really bring the G3's and G4's to life compared to the Rage128, and the res possibilities are endless. smile I've got the 64Mb in my G4 and it is absoolutely outstanding!


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#46 2015-05-03 04:52:35

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Be sure to use PCIExtreme! to enable Quartz Extreme on it.


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#47 2015-05-03 05:11:44

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

I am downloading it as we speak! big_smile


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#48 2015-05-03 06:37:34

Schmoburger
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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

Having pulled the vx apart and inspected the logic board with a fine tooth comb so to speak, I ended up scoping out what is possibly solidified cap goo shorting pins of a small I/C behind the I/O panel, or possibly some other substance. In either case, after removing the deposit from between the pins and giving the boards a good brush down, the machine booted again just fine. That said, in light of this discovery I think this will be another for the wash and recap stack shortly.

As an aside, this meant I was able to test out my newly acquired AppleColor Display from the other day... I had to take it apart as it had been rained on a tad that day so I left it in front of a heater with the case open for a few hours then put it back together, which is when the IIvx then failed to get ignition. hmm ANyway, it was $5 well spent as this screen works like a gem... crystal clear focus, stable, good color, great contrast, heaps of brightness reserve. Perfect!

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The only thing that makes me sad about these displays is the limited resolution, but they are still great on an old 68k desktop. smile

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#49 2015-05-03 16:12:19

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

compared to the Rage128

In defense of the Rage 128, although no question it's slower, it's also substantially more compatible. Games that weren't patched for the Radeon sometimes show unplayably bad polygon distortion. It was so fugly in Quake II (which Logicware never fixed) that I had to fall back on the software renderer on that machine. Shogo has the same problem, but it has a patch, at least.

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#50 2015-05-03 16:24:58

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Re: Schmo's bottomless bat-cave of present and future thangs...

The Rage 128 isn't bad; my Quicksilver had the AGP card removed and a R128 PCI stuck in, and it seemed to render Tiger at 1920x1080 just fine.

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