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#1 2015-01-25 21:06:39

Dnal
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Registered: 2015-01-03
Posts: 58

New project... Sawtooth

So there I was... on eBay...  and found a G4 Sawtooth (AGP later 450Mhz).  Auction started at $1, so I bid $5 or so and won it for a $1!  Plus $35 shipping.  It arrived as promised in unknown condition, unmolested by the seller.  Unfortunately, that meant it had a smashed hard drive (since it was not bolted down and went through the lovely USPS, whom also broke a handle).  The DVD is also a lost cause (not damaged in shipping, but tanked none the less)

Anyway, I got the beast to life using a spare hard drive and general cleanup.   But here are the problems I am having:

I can get it to boot with a 10.4 drive from an old eMac.  But that drive won't boot to 9.2.2 (and now it trapped wanting to boot to 9.2.2). 

On a new drive (non-Apple) that I installed 9.1 on using a USB DVD drive I have.  I then pushed it to 9.2.2.

I can't install 10.X on it since I cannot get the DVD drive to boot the installer disk and THE BIG PROBLEM:

I can't get the computer to run the firmware updates at all (4.1.8 or 4.2.8) which seem to be required in order to install the OS X.

Thoughts?? 

Do I need an Apple approved DVD or CD drive to make this work?  Do I need to use an Apple firmware Hard drive? (the one that came with it would have been great if 4 or 5 chips hadn't been bashed off the board by shipping).

Any help is appreciated.

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#2 2015-01-26 00:02:08

LCGuy
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From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: 2014-05-13
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Re: New project... Sawtooth

By the G3/G4 era, Apple ROM'd drives were a thing of the past. You can use any IDE drives you want - even drives from an old PC you find on the side of the road. I think your best bet would be to make sure you have a known good optical drive and hard drive (preferably both IDE, to keep things simple), and do an OS 9.1, 9.2.1 or 9.2.2 install from a retail OS 9 disc.

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#3 2015-01-26 01:44:00

Dnal
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Registered: 2015-01-03
Posts: 58

Re: New project... Sawtooth

That's what I thought.  And about what I have... found on road drive with new 9.1 then 9.2.2 install (neither work).  I downloaded the patch from several sources, put the patch on the desktop, removed all drives etc except a mouse/keyboard.  When I hit the programmers switch and power button, it just goes to a black screen.  I left it in that state for over 30min incase it was updating with no video.  NOTHING works.  I guess I will attach a rope to this thing and use it as a boat anchor, since I won't be able to install 10.2 like I want without it.

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#4 2015-01-26 01:50:27

techknight
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Registered: 2014-05-22
Posts: 449

Re: New project... Sawtooth

lgoic board could be bad? or going bad?

Then again with how much it jerked around in shipping, Reseating the CPU, RAM, and other cards might not be a bad idea.

Last edited by techknight (2015-01-26 01:51:43)

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#5 2015-01-26 02:18:28

Dnal
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Registered: 2015-01-03
Posts: 58

Re: New project... Sawtooth

Well, I got it!  I read somewhere online that one issue this patch was supposed to fix was support for third party RAM, in particular PC133.  Looking at what was installed, I had 2x64mb and 2x 256mb.  On a hunch, I pulled the two larger ones and tried again.  It worked!  Now for more testing. One of the RAM slots does look like it took a whack, but probably not from the bad shipping, the hard drive was pretty well contained by the cabling and a PCI card, so it didn't look like it wandered to the top of the case.

Thanks for the ideas.

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