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#1 2015-01-09 17:57:29

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Unity's uncovered Apples

I have been collecting Apple gear since about 1996. That started with original Macs, 512ks, SEs and a few other items when they could be had for about $75 shipped or for free! Sadly years ago most had been slowly sold off between moving, etc. I wish I never sold my free Lisa 2. But the past few years I have reinvigorated my collecting efforts while dusting off what I had boxed up. So to get this thread started, here is a bumper list of what I already have. Most compacts I have several of at this time from a summer conquest of 48 units. I am pretty bad at getting pics posted, but will do my best!

128k Drexel week 6
128k week 9, 29, 45
512k, ke
Plus, Platinum
SE, FDHC, Superdrive
SE/30 (two socketed)
II
IIcx prototypes, EVT, DVT, PVT
Portable (demonstration unit, not for resale)
Quadra 700 (with odd paint job)
Classic, II
Color Classic
8500
Performa 5125
PB 5300
PB 1400
Pismo
TiBooks
iMac 5 colors (blueberry) brand new in box
iMac slot-load (blueberry)
iBook G4
iMac G4
iMac G5
G5 tower

Outbound 125 laptop - Don Crabb's personal machine at one time

Apple IIe, IIgs, IIc, IIc Plus

I am sure I forgot a few things! I would attach some pics, but I think my post count is too low right now.

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#2 2015-01-09 18:03:44

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Re: Unity's uncovered Apples

unity wrote:

I would attach some pics, but I think my post count is too low right now.

Posting images should be enabled for all users, however we don't currently have image attachments available on here. You can still upload images to a host like Imgur and link them here though.

Nice collection, and welcome! smile


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#3 2015-01-09 18:14:29

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Okay, good to know. I only have Flickr. Looks like I can crop down their code and make it sorta work. Here is the photography styling I wan to do with all my crown jewels. This one is a IIcx DVT.

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#4 2015-01-09 22:34:37

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Very nice. Almost looks like something Apple would've done back in the day yikes

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#5 2015-01-10 15:50:01

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Your CX Proto collection is awesome! I'd love to see some pics of the other two as well, to kind of get a sense of the differences as they progressed from one stage to the next.

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#6 2015-01-10 17:11:00

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Copy that! Sounds like an amazing opportunity. Maybe we can get yourself, hap and other xVT collectors to co-operate in recreating/documenting development processes for various Macs in the NuBus Mafia tradition. That's where I'd like to see the PEx reboot head, it would be fascinating to see the progression to  shipped product revisions where those took place.




Holy crap! I never noticed the credit on that page. tongue

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#7 2015-01-10 19:00:22

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I will get more pics of all the IIcx. The EVT is code named Avanti with EPROMs and a full smooth case but the darn lid was damaged. Pretty sure I bought it from a recycler on eBay an we all know how things are tossed around. sad

Also jt - I have been planning to do just that with motherboards! One of my friends is setting up a permanent shooting space in his garage. I asked him to let me know when its done because I want to shoot motherboards at a longer distance. The longer the shooting distance, the more "straight on" the boards will look. When closer its like shooting a city with tall buildings and all the chips look like towers - the ones on the outer edge of the frame seem to lean left, right, etc. And I dont like that.

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#8 2015-01-14 04:02:54

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Well I took a gamble and bought two Macintosh IIs on the cheap. One was clearly a IIfx upgrade. Since the second was $20, I grabbed it also but there were not pics for it. Worst case I get a II and a IIfx. Well in a way I did okay. Both are IIs upgraded to IIfx. Nice! But the Maxell reds where in one and they did what they do best. The case metal took a hit, even some cards did since the machine was stored on end. This was a revision B board. If I clean it, there *might* be a chance of restoration since the caps are not electrolyte. I noticed sometimes the battery damage is just mainly surface. At least I have a spare IIfx ROM now.

The other, a revision A, is fine. Purple batteries held up. So a cleaning and a boot should be all it needs.

Both cases are in okay condition. Not great but not bad. Both have IIfx labels on the bottoms.

Again, I would post pics but I will have to setup a separate Flickr account since I dont want to flood my feed with shots like this. In short, you will probably never see pics until restoration of one. smile

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#9 2015-01-14 04:22:29

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Nice congratz

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#10 2015-01-14 06:34:11

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That IIfx ROM will work nicely in one of your IIcx's to provide 32-bit clean ROMs.  Think of it as a slow IIci without built-in video or a cache slot when you're done.

-J


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#11 2015-01-14 06:54:50

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Thats true. And I do have a IIcx with 128MB of ram! big_smile

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#12 2015-01-15 02:16:38

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Well, then, there ya go.

-J


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#13 2015-01-15 13:19:22

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unity wrote:

This one is a IIcx DVT.

What are your thoughts on recapping protos? It seems some of these older ones have those little tin cans that leak, like in the SE/30. I was just wondering if you replaced yours, or were going to? Or does that hurt value?

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#14 2015-01-15 14:35:44

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I am sure there are people that want 100% untouched boards. But odds are the board will not work or it will just get toasted by cap damage. My thoughts are they have to be done. But I prefer caps that match the originals but they can eventually leak, even though they are made better now days. So at the very least I match the axials and replace the tiny tin trash can caps with tats.

Uni re-capped the one I have pictured. It booted a couple times then died and never ran again. Once he re-capped it, it was back to normal. I still have to have the DVT and PVT recapped.

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#15 2015-01-15 17:59:24

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If you want the tin can look without the leak, look at using aluminum organic polymer caps. They are more expensive but they look like the original aluminum electrolytic caps:

n1tpp1.jpg


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#16 2015-01-15 19:13:22

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Yes Organic Polymer's.   They are also known for shorting "open" @ End of of life...
Witch is nice, Vs a tantalum that goes Boom in a Flaming Rage or Sparking Inferno. :-)

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#17 2015-01-16 05:22:23

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Tats explode? Oh my!

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#18 2015-01-16 19:29:39

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I had to youtube it to see... it's actually kind of exciting in slomo big_smile

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#19 2015-01-16 20:41:25

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Then, the next video in the playlist shows it in realtime with the sound a tant makes when it explodes.

-J


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#20 2015-01-30 00:44:42

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Unity, you've got Don Crabb's Outbound? yikes

Was that an eBay snag or have you got a connection? That's pretty nice right there!

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#21 2015-01-30 01:42:04

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MJ - Its a connection I had in a way. I picked it up locally but did not expect it to be loaded with work. I just wish the companion Mac for it was still around. It interfaces with a card.

I wonder how many computers, particularly Macs, he had? I am sure he got a lot of software to test drive and review. I wonder if the Outbound was a review item? Wonder if Apple every sent a Mac his way?

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#22 2015-01-30 02:30:38

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Well you answered my follow-up question already-- was there anything on it? That's pretty special content you've got there, I bet. I haven't a clue about his personal macs, but I would guess since he was so close to the top brass that I wouldn't be shocked if he had one or two. Or maybe Gil disliked him so much he sent Crabb an autographed Performa 6200 lol.

That's the outbound card that haunts trag in his dreams right? big_smile

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#23 2015-01-30 02:43:48

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Lots of stuff on it. Article, resume, bios, etc. If I recall, about 6 months of his work. There are folders for Byte, Sun-Times, InfoWorld, Mac/Chicago,MacWEEK and more. I cloned over the contents to be safe. I would post pics, but since this forum is stuck in 1995 its not going to happen.

And yes, the same dang card. Its a rare beast. My guess is that the outbounds, which contained the ROM, worked and were sold around. The Macs, with no ROM, did not work and people tossed em with the card inside. Some day I hope to find one.

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#24 2015-02-04 17:30:48

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Got myself a brand new LC II today! smile  So this is what non-yellowed platinum looks like? I did have to open it up but I kept the factory seal intact. It did have a red MAXELL battery of death, but it barely started to vent. So luckily no damage was done. I think the fact that it drained itself out early helped reduce any explosive type of damage. So since everything was tip-top, back into the resealed bag and box it went.

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#25 2015-02-04 20:50:20

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I saw the images on Facebook, very nice - you just don't see them like that anymore.

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