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#1 2014-09-10 18:50:40

jt
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15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

Inspired again, pulling this concept off the back burner for a bit  .  .  .  got questions: got answers? smile

iMic wrote:

iMac (17-inch Flat Panel, 1GHz) is from the first generation of widescreen iMac G4s. From the factory it was configured with 256MB of memory and an 80GB hard disk. It doesn't have an operating system at the moment, so I haven't been able to check. Same story with the AirPort hardware.

i_Mac_G417.jpg

w00t! That's the baby I'm looking to nab, OS9 booting bedstand slide show picture frame, iReadingLamp, totally reversible. How can you tell which rev. an iLamp might be w/o starting it up or opening it up. I've got a pair of 800s (one working) and ID tag inscrutability of a singleton is a particularly baffling sample size.

How much power do those beauties turn into heat? I use my collection as space heaters for the bedroom.

Now, to find the Service Source  .  .  .   roll

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#2 2014-09-11 03:09:33

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

I think there is a 17" version of the 800MHz model, that is the last to officially support OS 9. (Have both the disc image for OS 9 and the Service manual for it. Both of mine are 15", I didn't want the 17".)

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/i … -imac.html

On the bottom, the engravings (probably laser etched) tell you what it is.

EDIT: 15" is 1024x768 (XGA) and the 17" is 1440x900 (WXGA).

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#3 2014-09-11 04:19:11

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

1024x768 = pitiful for a Desktpp Computer in the 21st Century  .  .  .  I mean, really  .  .  .  just downright pitiful.  roll

If the one Mic snagged is  first gen 17" iSwag, then it's definitely the last of the OS9 iLamps, IIRC. Which is why I'd like to have one, but don't NEED one.

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#4 2014-09-11 06:47:04

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

jt wrote:

If the one Mic snagged is  first gen 17" iSwag, then it's definitely the last of the OS9 iLamps, IIRC. Which is why I'd like to have one, but don't NEED one.

It appears to be the first of the OS X-only iMacs:

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I have been able to boot Mac OS 9 on an unsupported iMac before, which I documented here, but it needs more work to make it a functional and usable system.


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#5 2014-09-11 13:16:30

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

It appears the 800MHz "X Only" and 1GHz models were introduced at the same time, so yeah. No goes on the OS 9. Could be decent if it had USB 2.0, but you can get that on a Mac mini G4. And then why bother with a 'mini G4, when it overs no benefit over a Core Duo 'mini, except in that it can boot Panther*?


EDIT: XGA isn't all that bad, really. When I play Bolo, I run it in 800x600, although I could use 640x480 too. In OS X, it's fine with XGA as long as you're not doing anything intense, like backing up the internet or spending a lot of time on tumblr galleries. PhotoBucket also has "scrolling galleries" so that would be bothersome, too./edit

*: If you have System 7 or 7.1, and you copy the File Sharing Extension (v 7.6.2) from a 7.5.3 install, it will allow Panther to mount the System 7/7.1 server. Can't go the other way though.

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#6 2014-09-11 13:27:28

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

A breakdown of OS 9 bootable iMac G4s:


The iMac (Flat Panel) was introduced in January 2002 and discontinued in February 2003. Apparently it shipped with Mac OS 9.2.2 (ROM 9.0.1) and Mac OS X 10.1.2 (5P63). It came in both 700MHz and 800MHz versions.

The iMac (17-inch Flat Panel) was introduced in July 2002 and discontinued in February 2003. It added a 17-inch 1440 x 900 display to the product range. This one came in only an 800MHz processor version and apparently shipped with Mac OS 9.2.2 (ROM 9.5.1) and Mac OS X 10.1.5. If you wanted an OS 9 compatible 17-inch model iMac, this would be the one to get.

The iMac (15-inch Early 2003) and iMac (17-inch Flat Panel, 1GHz) were both introduced in February 2003. The 15-inch version dropped the 700MHz processor option, retaining only the 800MHz model. The 17-inch version was bumped to 1GHz and gained a 133MHz frontside bus - up from 100MHz on the previous 17-inch model. These February 2003 models dropped OS 9 support and started shipping with Mac OS X 10.2.3 (6H58, 6H60, 6I34) only.


Source: Mactracker.


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#7 2014-09-11 14:36:25

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

Yep, when I first heard about the July, 2002 iLamp/800/OS9/17" over at the barracks I fell in lust.

I'd never really wanted an iMac of any kind, maybe the Graphite SE, mainly because the gorgeous DA was my first new Mac since the remaindered PowerBook 100. Somebody there had a pair of the OSX affilicted 800/15" and needed to get them gone pronto, so I traded something or other for them and they've been sittingnext to the halogens on the big, mid-century modern, teak headboard/bedside table combo for well over four years now.

The concept of the hack is an inverted asymetrical/pantographic balanced arm lamp.

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The lamp in this pic illustrates a pantograph set at a one to one ratio. My version will be asymmetrical, either expanding or reducing the "size of the drawing" such that swinging the LCD up to maximum height will flip/rotate hidden LED PCBs  .  .  .

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.  .  .  through an arc that converts them to a 4/8/12 switched illumination reading lamp in the"up arm" position and indirect lighting mode in the "hidden" or "halfway down arm" position behind the LCD (digital picture frame) Panel. The angle of the LCD panel fine tunes the lamp's angle for reading or indirect lighting, while the height of the LCD panel controls the general orientation/function of the PCBs.

Pulling the LCD all the way forward/down rotates the LED PCBs from indirect "wall lighting" to vertically oriented indirect "ceiling lighting" or anywhere in between.


It will be fun working it all out! big_smile


edit: it's obvious, but rotating the LCD panel's arm adjusts the compass orientation of the lights. wink





<   wonders if it's noticeable that he's a very sick, sick individual  .  .  .  neutral   >

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#8 2014-09-11 23:28:59

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jt wrote:

I'd never really wanted an iMac of any kind, maybe the Graphite SE, mainly because the gorgeous DA was my first new Mac since the remaindered PowerBook 100.

But...but...I sent you TWO iMac G4s! 700 & 800! One with 64MB of RAM! Still booted and installed Jaguar!


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#9 2014-09-12 03:46:50

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

LOL! So that WAS you? What did I send you, my 2300cTB?

Remember, you said you NEEDED to get rid of them. The 700 doesn't boot, is that one OS9 capable? I fell in love with the cute little buggers after a while  .  .  .

KOWABUNGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just checked and the only G4/700 listed boots into native 9.2.2! big_smile

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#10 2014-09-12 04:08:36

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

Dang! The 700 showed signs of life! ISTR it being deader-n-a-doornail on arrival. Just now was the first time I've tried powering it on since it arrived and it gave me a startup bong, was lookin' good and then hung with the rotary doohickie stopped dead in its tracks under the Apple Logo. Shut it down and all I get is  three boops worth of bad news.

The 800 has a fan, so Native 9 is a non-starter.

Three boops indicates a memory boo-boo during post, correct? I'm suddenly diggin' this 700! wink

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#11 2014-09-12 11:27:58

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Yeah, it was me. They *were* working when the left the door, that's how I installed Jaguar on them in the first place. They came from someone I know who bought them for a song at university surplus. "I thought I play with them since I've never used Macs before" or something to that effect. Then they found out they didn't have enough time to do that, and the space was needed.

The last 2300cTB I offloaded to macdrone. Couldn't handle the SpinderPlastic and atrocious keyboard. Criminally negligently designed keyboard.

Three boops? No idea. Could be time for a recap. I have the manual for it, if that helps. I can trade it for that Radius Rocket 1.3.2 deal smile


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#12 2014-09-12 14:17:40

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On the subject of iLamps, I thought I'd share this.

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#13 2014-09-12 15:53:28

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

Yeah, three boops should be memory. I'd crack it open, check the internal PC133 RAM and re-grease the heatsink contact points.


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#14 2016-11-30 15:40:48

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

Anybody got the ServiceSource for either of these puppies?

The 700/OS9 has been sitting on my headboard for freakin' ever! The matching 800/OS10 iLamp that was on the other side has been stored and replaced by the 17" Blueberry CRT StudioDisplay's gutted carcass. Eventually that will house the new MacQuarium home for the plastic fish. smile

If you haven't noticed, I'm resurrecting projects and hacks to decide which of those I think I'm still interested in completing, weeding out impossible dreams and deciding what project hardware I can sell, pass on or recycle.

So many projects, so little space, money and time. roll

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#15 2016-11-30 17:57:16

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Re: 15"/17" iLamp (literally, but not destructively) Hack

Sent you an email, jt


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