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#51 2015-02-19 03:17:27

unity
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Re: Reporting Site Issues

Ok, glad I asked!

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#52 2015-02-19 08:14:22

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

As I recall, it's only something that happens with an https request and I see no evidence of the request making it to the server when it happens.


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#53 2015-02-19 16:11:26

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

I wonder if this is related to the Classilla issue. I still haven't been able to trigger it on other sites.

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#54 2015-02-21 00:00:18

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

When I browse to this site on one computer, I see the unread messages and stuff. Let's say I read all of them, thereby marking them all read. Then, if I come to the site on another computer, I will see the read messages come up as unread.

And now, I've noticed a new manifestation: I looked at the site from my iPad, and there were many unread messages. Now, when I look from a normal computer, they're all read!

Why is this? I'm sure it's nothing, but the consistency of it seems rather suspicious to me.

I can live with it, but I thought I'd mention it since it might qualify as a "site issue".

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#55 2015-03-24 12:10:57

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

It's taken me a while (actually quite a while... a month, sheesh) to revisit this thread, my apologies.

I believe it's because our forum software updates the information for the current session in the cookie that is set in the browser, which of course is stored on the device itself, so viewing posts in the browser on one device doesn't update the viewed posts in the browser on another device.

It's rather quirky how it behaves sometimes, but thankfully it doesn't disrupt the viewing of posts *too* much, especially since the pace of traffic here is still rather relaxed at this point in time.


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#56 2015-05-01 13:13:55

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

So, whenever I try to respond to a post from my iPhone, when I hit send, it doesn't load the new page and just pops up with "Safari was unable to load the page because the server stopped responding."  Happens regardless of network, my iPad posts just fine though. iPhone is running iOS 8.3.

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#57 2015-05-02 03:26:09

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

We've been having some issues with Safari on iOS 8 and Safari on OS X Yosemite with exactly this issue. Seems those browsers aren't that fond of our setup. We've been checking our server logs following each dropped connection, but it seems Safari isn't sending us anything because no incoming request is recorded.

It's possibly due to our SSL implementation and how the forum engine hands off between HTTP/HTTPS connections. Our forum engine attempts to redirect back to the HTTP version of the site when a post is submitted, and the server bounces it back to the HTTPS connection. I suspect this causes the connection to drop or the submitted information (post contents, etc) to be dropped.

I'll work on it this afternoon and see what I can come up with.


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#58 2015-05-02 05:16:53

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

I've just tested posting under Yosemite 10.10.0 (Safari 8.0) and the issue is still there - the server unexpectedly dropped the connection.

We're trying almost everything to fix this issue but it still doesn't work. Only occurs with the latest versions of Safari, go figure.


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#59 2015-05-02 05:21:46

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

Maybe this is what Classilla is objecting to, perhaps, as well. I've still not been able to get it to misbehave in that fashion on other sites (that have cipher suites in common -- that is now the bigger problem).

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#60 2015-05-02 13:26:26

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

Well, midday yesterday I was able to post from my iPhone, but now I can't post from either my iPad or my iPhone.

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#61 2015-05-03 04:13:30

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

mcdermd is testing a few things on the server side and I'll continue to work on the forum software. Hopefully we get this issue resolved.


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#62 2015-05-24 04:20:55

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

Sorry for the weird-time earlier today guys. Bad card in the switch. My guy got it taken care of this morning, though.


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#63 2015-06-14 06:37:28

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

I get below error message when logging in.

Warning: You appear to be using an older browser that does not support SSL encryption. While you can still access ThinkClassic, please be aware that any information sent to the server, such as email addresses and passwords, will be sent insecurely.

Whats causing that?

Have Firefox latest browser (38.0.5).

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#64 2015-06-14 07:46:12

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

Since this is a forum software related issue I'll stick this in Community News & Discussion. Unfortunately I can't really help that much as I don't know the forum software - iMic will be able to help you more.

However - are you having any issues with any other websites that use HTTPS?

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#65 2015-06-14 09:22:39

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

No issues, just a message.

https shows in url.

Oops, nevermind, why I didn't see it, was accessing forum with http via a bookmark, changed to reflect https. roll

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#66 2015-06-14 12:19:54

iMic
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Re: Reporting Site Issues

We removed the automatic redirect to HTTPS because some users were having issues posting with it enabled. The forum software has been upgraded to remain connected via whatever protocol you initially connect to it with - bookmark the https:// site and that's what it'll use. Access it via http:// and it'll use an unencrypted connection instead. It seems like a fair compromise between those that want secure connections and those that want compatibility with older hardware.


William wrote:

Oops, nevermind, why I didn't see it, was accessing forum with http via a bookmark, changed to reflect https. roll

There's the solution. smile The warning only appears when accessing the forums via the http:// address.

The message is there to warn users that their information will be sent unencrypted. Using either connection has no impact on the performance or functionality of the forums, just one connection is more secure than the other. I intend to update that error message to offer a better explanation soon.


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#67 2015-06-14 13:53:46

iMic
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Re: Reporting Site Issues

I've updated the forum component that displays that error. It should now read:

Warning: You are connected via an unencrypted HTTP connection. While ThinkClassic continues to offer unencrypted connections for backward compatibility with older browsers, we encourage our users to consider using our HTTPS site whenever possible. You may need to update your bookmarks to reflect the new address. While accessing the forums through an unencrypted connection will not negatively impact your browsing experience, please be aware that any information sent to the server, such as email addresses and passwords, will be sent insecurely.

The solution is to make sure you're accessing the site via https://www.thinkclassic.org and ensure your bookmarks also point to the https:// version of the site.

We continue to offer the unencrypted http:// version of the site for users attempting to access the forums from older machines or browsers, however it does have the drawback that information such as email addresses, passwords or anything you send between your computer and our server is sent clear over the wire. Perhaps information available here isn't a critical as the information you would send to your bank for internet banking for example, but some users still felt we should offer encrypted connections as a precaution.


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#68 2015-06-14 16:44:19

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

Thanks iMic for the explanation. Error message went away after changing to https.

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#69 2015-07-31 08:33:31

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

I don't know how much of an issue this is, but on the intermediate screens that show up just after posting or logging in, the little icon that shows up on the tab or title bar seems to revert to the original, lores version with the white background.

c


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#70 2015-07-31 08:52:36

iMic
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Re: Reporting Site Issues

I know why that is. The code module that we've loaded into FluxBB to handle meta information, including the hi-res favicon, isn't loaded during redirects. A limitation of the board software. If I can fix it I will, otherwise it'll mostly be a low priority fix that we can roll in with the next round of major updates.


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#71 2015-07-31 15:59:30

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

In Safari, I can't login, change any user preferences (password) or even modify a post. I can (sometimes) write a post, but it is 50/50.

In Firefox, everything works fine.

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#72 2015-12-19 10:08:52

iMic
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Re: Reporting Site Issues

Another major software update this afternoon to correct some known issues with the FluxBB software and fix two critical vulnerabilities.

As is always the case, if anyone encounters any issues while using the forums please report them here.


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#73 2016-01-23 08:12:10

Halian
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Re: Reporting Site Issues

When accessing the site using Safari on Yosemite on my MacBook3,1: The site will randomly drop the connection, causing pages not to load. Often, several reloads are required in order to progress. (So far this is the only website I've encountered that acts like this.)

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#74 2016-01-23 18:31:03

Scott Baret
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Registered: 2014-05-21
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Re: Reporting Site Issues

I am also having Safari issues, both with iOS devices and on OS X El Capitan. The problem is with posting--I can type something, click "submit", and it won't post, giving me an error message instead.

It's not a huge deal for me personally, I just use Firefox as a workaround when I access the site (which I use often as my browser for sites that hate Safari or AdBlock Plus), but it is something I'm curious about. I don't recall having the issues under anything pre-Yosemite.

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#75 2016-06-10 20:38:29

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Re: Reporting Site Issues

I'm running Safari 7.1.7 on Mavericks 10.9.5. No problem to report.
So it's either El Cap or Safari 9...


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